LGBTQIA+ Wiki
LGBTQIA+ Wiki
m (Forgot a break. Attempting indent)
Tag: Source edit
 
mNo edit summary
Tags: Reverted Visual edit
 
Line 1: Line 1:
  +
{{Infobox
==Edit Request==
 
  +
| image = [[File:Biromantic flag (by pride-flags).png]]
Please move stub template to top, thanks. [[User:TacticalBalaclava|Tactical]] [[Message Wall:TacticalBalaclava|Balaclava]] 03:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
  +
| caption = A proposed biromantic flag, designed by Pride-Flags on DeviantArt<ref name="DAFlag">{{Cite web|url=https://www.deviantart.com/pride-flags/art/Biromantic-607943792|title=Biromantic|author=Pride-Flags|date=May 9, 2016}}</ref>
*Done, you're welcome! [[User:Immi Thrax|<span style="color:#fc008f;">'''''Immi Thrax'''''</span>]] (she/her) [[Message Wall:Immi Thrax|(message me)]] 03:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
  +
| term = [[Romantic orientation]]
  +
| spectrum =
  +
| attracted = Any two or more [[Gender identity|gender identities]]
  +
| sexuality = [[Bisexual]]
  +
| different = * [[Panromantic]]
  +
* [[Polyromantic]]
  +
}}
  +
'''Biromantic''' is a term used to describe people who are capable of feeling a romantic connection to people of two specific and distinct [[Gender identity|gender identities]].<ref name="WebMD: Biromatic">{{Cite web|url=https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-does-biromantic-mean |title=What Does Biromantic Mean? |archivedate=20211212074212 |author=WebMD Editorial Contributors |work=https://www.webmd.com}}</ref> Biromantics want to date and form a romantic connection with more than one [[gender]]&mdash;including [[cisgender]] men, women, and other non-rigid identities like [[transgender]] and [[non-binary]] people.<ref name="Insider: Biromantic">{{Cite web |url=https://www.insider.com/biromantic |title=Being biromantic and bisexual aren't the same — here's what it means to be biromantic |date=2012-09-24 |archivedate=20220114113245 |author=Laderer, Ashley |work=https://www.insider.com}}</ref>
   
  +
==Etymology==
== Citation 5 "PsychReel" is incorrect ==
 
  +
The name combines "'''bi'''" and "'''romantic'''". ''Bi'' is the Latin prefix for "two" while "romantic" is derived from the French word ''"romantique"''. In a literal sense, it means "two romances" or "two romantics".<ref name="Etymyonline: Romantic">{{Cite web|url=https://www.etymonline.com/word/romantic#etymonline_v_15180 |title=romantic <nowiki>|</nowiki> Etymology, origin and meaning of romantic by etymonline |archivedate=20211201235301 |work=https://www.etymonline.com}}</ref>
   
  +
==Community==
I don't know how to fix this citation but I found the correct source for what the passage is referencing. Additionally the page is locked, so I am not able to correct it regardless. I requested help on this topic in this forum post, but so far the admins have only been able to fight other people about the offensive passage and none of them can apparently help me with this citation's format. Forum post: https://lgbtqia.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000031486
 
  +
===History===
Here is the correct source: https://web.archive.org/web/20140408123152/https://www.genderspectrum.org/child-family/faq
 
  +
The term "biromantic" was allegedly coined between 1995 and 2000,<ref name="dictionary">{{Cite web |url=https://www.dictionary.com/browse/biromantic |title=Biromantic |archivedate=20211230214832 |work=https://www.dictionary.com}}</ref> though it was not until 2005 that the term was actually used in a news article that was speaking about [[asexual]] individuals.<ref name="smh">{{Cite web |url=https://www.smh.com.au/national/no-sex-please-im-not-into-it-20050416-gdl50l.html |title=No sex please, I'm not into it |date=2005-04-16 |archivedate=20210630224913 |work=https://www.smh.com.au |publisher=The Sydney Morning Herald}}</ref>
[[User:CatboyMorgan|CatboyMorgan]] ([[User talk:CatboyMorgan|talk]]) 03:15, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
   
  +
===Flag===
:Probably something like this:
 
  +
{{stub|section}}
<pre><ref name="GS">{{Cite web|url=https://www.genderspectrum.org/child-family/faqtitle=Xenogender|title=Frequently Asked
 
Questions|publisher=Gender Spectrum|date=2011|accessdate=2022-01-04|archivedurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140408123152
 
/https://www.genderspectrum.org/child-family/faq}}</ref></pre>
 
:Bear in mind that I think "spectrum" is already a ref name on that page, and so this citation might already be in use elsewhere. Hope that helps! {{User:Fruipit/Signature}} 03:24, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
   
  +
===Distinction===
== Disputed passage ==
 
  +
====Bisexual====
  +
{{Main|Bisexual}}
  +
The term "biromantic" is confused with or falsely used in place of [[bisexual]]ity, even though they are two separate identities. Being biromantic refers to one's [[romantic orientation]], thus dealing with the romantic side of attraction, while bisexuality is a [[sexual orientation]] referring to the sexual aspect of attraction.<ref name="mindbodygreen">{{Cite web|url=https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/biromantic |title=Biromantic: What Does It Mean & How It Relates to Bisexuality |author=Barnes, Stephanie & Overstreet, Kristie, Ph.D., LPCC, LMHC, CST |date=2021-06-16 |archivedate=20210620030111 |work=https://www.mindbodygreen.com}}</ref>
   
  +
While a biromantic and bisexual attraction can coincide, it does not have to be the case. Biromantic individuals can but are not always sexually attracted to the genders they are romantically interested in. Similarly, many bisexual people also identify as biromantic, as they find romantic attraction in either of their gendered or non-gendered partners, though this is not an absolute.<ref name="Healthline: Biromantic">{{Cite web|url=https://www.healthline.com/health/biromantic |title=How does being biromantic coexist with your sexual orientation? |archivedate=20211203201046 |author=Ferguson, Sian |work=https://www.healthline.com |publisher=Healthline}}</ref>
I edited the passage so it would no longer be offensive, which then got written over to a version that was incorrect to the referenced passage and additionally was basically the offensive passage with more words. I tried to correct a criticism (my passage had unintentionally implied this was exclusive to xenogender children) but my passage was reverted to the offensive passage and then the page was locked.
 
   
  +
====Panromantic====
For ease of reference here is my passage. I originally thought just "xenogender children" would be acceptable for this passage (as the page is about xenogender people) but as someone felt this implied children of other nonbinary identities and genders may not also present this way, I changed it. "Young nonbinary children may approach" would also work, if "nonbinary and xenogender children" seems to imply that xenogender people are not also nonbinary.
 
  +
{{Main|Panromantic}}
''Young nonbinary and xenogender children may approach this gap by refusing to label themselves by gender, only using their name; identifying themselves as animals; and drawing themselves in self portraits as rainbows, unicorns, or other symbols they choose.''
 
  +
[[Panromantic]] is another identity that overlaps with biromantic but is different and not entirely the same. Panromantics are people who can experience a romantic attraction to ''all'' people, regardless of their gender, whereas the attraction biromantics experience is limited to any ''two'' genders.<ref name="Insider: Biromantic" />
[[User:CatboyMorgan|CatboyMorgan]] ([[User talk:CatboyMorgan|talk]]) 03:15, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
   
  +
====Polyromantic====
:That's because this passage indicates that ''only'' young people / children use names / names of animals and objects, while we know full-well that xenogender adults do it too. THe original is in reference only to a linguistic phenomenon. Another example (thought different) can be seen with the use in Australian English to use "diminutives" to refer to objects that should note be "cutified": a horsie is a cute horse. a bikie is not a cute biker. and yet the term 'bikie' exists in AusE and is used by adults and childeren alike to refer to members of motorcycle gangs. Same with the example currently on the page. It's just a quirk of the language shared between children and adults. Doesn't make the adults "childish". {{User:Fruipit/Signature}} 03:20, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
  +
{{Main|Polyromantic}}
  +
{{stub|section}}
   
  +
==Resources==
::How does it imply this? What would I need to add to the passage so it no longer implies this? Would adding a sentence at the end that says "Adults may also do this as they feel it suits them best." work? or "Many adults take the same approach to express themselves."? Also, the passage from the citation only mentions children, so it's not exactly appropriate to use it for adults...
 
  +
''Here you can place useful resources relevant for the described topic.''
<br>Here is the referenced text from the source:
 
<br>"<b>How can my child have no gender or a blended gender?</b>
 
<br>Not all children fit neatly into a male or female gender identity, trans or otherwise. For some children, the sense of being “both” or “neither” best describes their reality. Children seeing themselves as “both” will often explain that whether with a group of girls or a group of boys, they feel “at home.” Such a child will often speak of being more of one some days and more of the other on different days. These children might best be described as fluid in their gender. One therapist reported how some of the teens coming into the practice were describing themselves as “gender Priuses; you know, hybrids!”
 
   
  +
== Media ==
Children who see themselves as “neither” will often speak of how regardless of whether they’re with a group of boys or girls, they feel like they don’t fit. This is not necessarily a sad feeling. They just see the kids around them and know that they are not “that.” Kids in this category often appear androgynous, and will frequently answer the question “are you a boy or a girl” by saying their name (“I’m Devon”) or by identifying themselves as animals. When asked to draw self portraits, they will portray themselves as rainbows, or unicorns, or another symbol of their choosing."
 
   
  +
=== Television/Animated ===
I don't see what diminutive nicknames in Australia have to do with this.
 
  +
[[User:CatboyMorgan|CatboyMorgan]] ([[User talk:CatboyMorgan|talk]]) 03:33, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
  +
* [https://tmra-series.fandom.com/wiki/Sparky_Flakes Sparky Flakes], [https://tmra-series.fandom.com/wiki/Chase_Grummel Chase Grummel], [https://tmra-series.fandom.com/wiki/Xander_Marigold Xander Marigold], and possibly [https://tmra-series.fandom.com/wiki/Malik_Magistral Malik Magistral] <small>(heavily implied to presumably be either [[Bisexual]] or Biromantic and possibly [[Pansexual]] in the future)</small> from [https://tmra-series.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Majesty:_Ruffus_Adventures ''Time Majesty: Ruffus Adventures''].
  +
  +
=== Other people ===
  +
  +
* '''TBA'''
  +
  +
==References==
  +
{{Scroll|{{Reflist}}}}
  +
  +
[[de:Biromantisch]]
  +
[[es:Birromanticismo]]
  +
[[pt-br:Birromanticidade]]
  +
[[ja:バイロマンティック]]

Revision as of 05:32, 20 February 2023

Biromantic is a term used to describe people who are capable of feeling a romantic connection to people of two specific and distinct gender identities.[2] Biromantics want to date and form a romantic connection with more than one gender—including cisgender men, women, and other non-rigid identities like transgender and non-binary people.[3]

Etymology

The name combines "bi" and "romantic". Bi is the Latin prefix for "two" while "romantic" is derived from the French word "romantique". In a literal sense, it means "two romances" or "two romantics".[4]

Community

History

The term "biromantic" was allegedly coined between 1995 and 2000,[5] though it was not until 2005 that the term was actually used in a news article that was speaking about asexual individuals.[6]

Flag

Site-logo Expansion needed
This section is incomplete. You can help LGBTQIA+ Wiki by expanding it.

Distinction

Bisexual

The term "biromantic" is confused with or falsely used in place of bisexuality, even though they are two separate identities. Being biromantic refers to one's romantic orientation, thus dealing with the romantic side of attraction, while bisexuality is a sexual orientation referring to the sexual aspect of attraction.[7]

While a biromantic and bisexual attraction can coincide, it does not have to be the case. Biromantic individuals can but are not always sexually attracted to the genders they are romantically interested in. Similarly, many bisexual people also identify as biromantic, as they find romantic attraction in either of their gendered or non-gendered partners, though this is not an absolute.[8]

Panromantic

Panromantic is another identity that overlaps with biromantic but is different and not entirely the same. Panromantics are people who can experience a romantic attraction to all people, regardless of their gender, whereas the attraction biromantics experience is limited to any two genders.[3]

Polyromantic

Site-logo Expansion needed
This section is incomplete. You can help LGBTQIA+ Wiki by expanding it.

Resources

Here you can place useful resources relevant for the described topic.

Media

Television/Animated

Other people

  • TBA

References

  1. "Biromantic" by Pride-Flags on deviantart.com. Published May 9, 2016
  2. "What Does Biromantic Mean?" by WebMD Editorial Contributors on webmd.com (Archived on December 12, 2021).
  3. 3.0 3.1 "Being biromantic and bisexual aren't the same — here's what it means to be biromantic" by Laderer, Ashley on insider.com. Published 2012-09-24 (Archived on January 14, 2022).
  4. "romantic | Etymology, origin and meaning of romantic by etymonline" on etymonline.com (Archived on December 1, 2021).
  5. "Biromantic" on dictionary.com (Archived on December 30, 2021).
  6. "No sex please, I'm not into it" on smh.com.au. Published 2005-04-16 by The Sydney Morning Herald (Archived on June 30, 2021).
  7. "Biromantic: What Does It Mean & How It Relates to Bisexuality" by Barnes, Stephanie & Overstreet, Kristie, Ph.D., LPCC, LMHC, CST on mindbodygreen.com. Published 2021-06-16 (Archived on June 20, 2021).
  8. "How does being biromantic coexist with your sexual orientation?" by Ferguson, Sian on healthline.com. Published by Healthline (Archived on December 3, 2021).